Trivia contest at the airport. On the Aspen approach, KASE,
there's an approach LOC/DME-E. Never seen or heard of a
DME-E...and can't find anything in the Terminal Procedures
book.

Help!

On 7/7/2007 2:52:56 PM, wrote:

> Trivia contest at the airport. On the Aspen approach, KASE,
> there's an approach LOC/DME-E. Never seen or heard of a
> DME-E...and can't find anything in the Terminal Procedures
> book.

The "-E" indicates that the approach is a circling approach to the runway and
has been revised at least five? times (A,B,C,D,E).


--
Peter

"blanche cohen" > wrote in message ...
> Trivia contest at the airport. On the Aspen approach, KASE,
> there's an approach LOC/DME-E. Never seen or heard of a
> DME-E...and can't find anything in the Terminal Procedures
> book.
>
> Help!
>
>

Needs "E"verything to perform the approach?

Needs better than VFR minimums? The miss follows a back course localizer, from a mountain?

The "E" means the localizer is not lined up with the runway, offset to one side or the other?

Blueskies wrote:

>
> The "E" means the localizer is not lined up with the runway, offset to one side or the other?
>
>

DING.

It's the fifth circling approach the the field. Oddly enough there are
really only two still alive, the LOC/DME-E and the VOR/DME-C.

This airport is extremely dicey, even VFR. Read the remarks in the
airport directory:

- TERRAIN WILL NOT ALLOW FOR NORMAL TFC PATTERNS. HIGH RATES OF DESCENT
MAY BE RQRD DUE TO TERRAIN & LOCAL PROCS.
- OPERATIONS DURING PERIODS OF REDUCED VISIBILITY DISCOURAGED FOR
PILOTS UNFAMILIAR WITH AREA.
- ARPT LOCATED IN HIGH MOUNTAIN VALLEY WITH MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN FROM
12500 - 14000 FT MSL IN NEAR PROXIMITY TO ARPT; NUMEROUS UNLIGHTED
OBSTRUCTIONS. ALL ADVERSE WEATHER SITUATIONS MAGNIFIED IN MOUNTAINS.
- UNCONTROLLED TRAFFIC ON THE TERMINAL RAMP; ASPEN AVIATION RAMP; SOUTH
RAMP; & ABO RAMP. RY 33 RUN-UP AREA NOT VISIBLE FROM ATCT.
- FOR ALL GA OPNS BTWN 30 MIN AFT SS TO 2300 THE FOLLOWING APPLIES:
ACFT EQUIPPED AS RQRD UNDER FAR 91.205(D) FOR INST FLT - PILOT IS INST
RATED; VFR PIC HAS COMPLETED AT LEAST ONE TKOF OR LDNG IN THE PRECEDING
12 MONTHS AT ASE. IFR: EXECUTE APCH/DEP PROCEDURES WITH ATC CLNC.
- UNLESS CEILINGS ARE AT LEAST 2000 FT ABOVE HIGHEST TRRN & VIS IS 15
MILES OR MORE; MOUNTAIN FLYING IS NOT RECOMMENDED.
- TKOF NOT AUTHORIZED ON RY 15 WITHOUT WRITTEN PERMISSION FM AMGR.
- DUE TO POOR VSBY IN VALLEY, USE LNDG LGTS IN TFC PAT.
- REVIEW OF AIRPLANE PERFORMANCE RCMDD INCLUDING DA; WEIGHT & BALANCE
AND CLIMB PERFORMANCE.
- HANG GLIDERS; PARA GLIDERS; HOT AIR BALLOON & GLIDER OPNS ON & INVOF
ARPT UP TO 18000 FT MSL.
- FBO REQUIRES 4 HRS ADVANCE NOTICE FOR STAGING ACFT PRIOR TO DEP.
- DUE TO HIGH APCH MINIMUMS PILOTS MAY NEED AN IFR ALTERNATE EVEN
THOUGH WEATHER IS FORECAST TO BE HIGHER THAN 2000-3.
A30-00X THIS RUNWAY EXISTS TO SUPPORT THE PKN LDA ASSOCIATED WITH THIS
AIRPORT.
A106 ACFT REQUIRING IFR SHOULD FILE FLIGHT PLAN WITH FLIGHT SERVICE 45
MIN PRIOR TO ESTD DEP.